Sherianna Boyle: Working with Emotions to Successfully Let Go of Sugar

Have you ever reached for sugar—not out of hunger—but to silence something stirring inside you?

You’re not alone. In this powerful episode of the Kick Sugar Coach Podcast, I sit down with Sherianna Boyle—author of Emotional Detox and Just Ask Spirit—to explore how unprocessed emotions often drive our cravings, and how learning to feel our feelings can be the key to lasting food freedom.

Sherianna is a seasoned educator, bestselling author of 11 books, and a leading voice in emotional processing and spiritual connection. Her work teaches that emotions and spirit are not separate, and that by working with our emotional energy, we don’t just heal—we transform.

🎧 In this episode, we explore:

• Why we often eat to cope with emotions that aren’t even ours
• The difference between true emotion and reactive coping
• How emotions are a gateway to spirit, intuition, and clarity
• What emotional detox really means—and why it’s essential for recovery
• How to move energy in seconds, not years, without stuffing it down with food

This episode is an invitation to pause, feel, and reconnect with the wisdom within you.
 Because true freedom from sugar doesn’t come from fighting cravings—it comes from learning to listen to what your emotions are really trying to say.

Tune in and take the first step toward a more peaceful, present, and powerful you.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Sheriana Boyle
• 8:03 The Birth of Emotional Detox
• 16:30 Understanding Emotions vs. Reactions
• 25:40 The Anatomy of Emotions
• 35:20 Emotions and Spirit as One
• 43:00 Processing vs. Reacting to Emotions

Transcript

FLORENCE: 0:02

Hello everybody and welcome to an interview today with Sheriana Boyle, and let me redo her bio. She is the author of not one, not two, not three, not four, but actually 11 books, believe it or not. Her latest book is called Just Ask Spirit Free your Emotions to Energize Intuition and Discover Purpose. Her Emotional Detox book series that has been a bestseller since 2018 shares some of her signature approaches to help us process emotions, so that we are not caught up in the vortex of them and that we are freed up to be able to be the spiritual brilliant beings that we are. She has a system that can help us connect to and receive divine guidance, healing, clarity, insights. She is the host of the Just Ask Spirit podcast, which is wildly popular and always growing, and she is currently an adjunct professor of psychology and mindfulness, and she's been doing that for over 15 years. You can find her at Sheriana Boyle, so her first name and her last name SherianaBoylecom. Welcome, sheriana.

SHERIANNA: 1:12

Thanks for having me Happy to be here. I love being a part of your summits and everything that you create.

FLORENCE: 1:20

Thank you so much. So I really really love this conversation around this emotional piece of it all, because we know that when we put our food down, our emotions come up and if we don't have skills to learn how to meet and greet them and to process them, you know we can get, we get really overwhelmed by them and we'll go back to the food, the junk food, that we don't want to be eating. So tell me a little bit about how you became an expert in this space of helping humans to learn how to befriend and to process and integrate their feelings.

SHERIANNA: 1:56

I think it was just pure curiosity.

SHERIANNA: 1:58

It's really just where I've devoted my time and attention like you, florence, giving studying. What are you interested in? What are you insatiable about? And really that's one of the ways we know we're connected to spirit. We just feel guided. And that's how it came to me. It really just kind of fell into my lap. I remember the day. That's another way we know when we're connected to something, higher is your memory for it, even though the story isn't very exciting, but just the way it kind of popped in through emotional detox. I just spewed the name out loud.

SHERIANNA: 2:36

One day I said emotional detox to my girlfriend. We were leaving yoga. I taught the class and I looked at her. I said emotional detox, that's my next book. I taught the class and I looked at her. I said emotional detox, that's my next book. And she said I like it. And I said I don't know, just kind of popped in out of nowhere. I think that's my next book. And then I presented it to my publisher and they said you've got something, but you need more research. And so I I went back and did the research and then presented it and they said now you really have something. And I said okay.

SHERIANNA: 3:09

So then I was hit by some real traumatic things that happened in my life unexpectedly. Now I know that was spirit preparing me. So during my research I was researching emotions what happens when we process them, what happens when we don't? How did we process them? What is this whole thing about? And I'm getting all these pieces together. Then I'm hit with some traumatic. Our whole family was hit with something traumatic and now I need an emotional detox.

SHERIANNA: 3:39

It's like it's not just research anymore and at that point I'm like okay, now I'm in it and I don't even want to write about it anymore, because it was that traumatic and the publisher was kind enough to say you're going to write about it but do it at your own pace, which was beautiful because I had free reign, I didn't have strict deadlines like I usually do, and so it could really unfold and I had to let go. You know, in that spirit to learning to let go and give yourself time and space, you and I've had discussions about time and space. When you're hit with trauma, you really do need time. So it was really a blessing that I was a publisher.

SHERIANNA: 4:20

That grant granted me that and it gave me a chance to really get to know and how you choose your time. I chose to say I am going to give myself time and space. I gave myself a year. I still worked and had to do everything else. I didn't quit my job or anything, I still had to be a parent. But I said I'm going to give myself a year and I'm going to process my emotions for a year, because I had the information, and so that's how this all began and then led to. My work is now Just Ask Spirit, which is all about how emotions open you up to that spiritual guidance and wisdom.

FLORENCE: 5:02

Amazing. So it sounds like there was this initial interest in helping us process ones that were painful or heavy or difficult and uncomfortable, and now it sounds like you're also helping people to work with emotions, to stay open, to expand and to connect more deeply to our spiritual side and to life beyond.

SHERIANNA: 5:25

Yeah, because there are spiritual lessons to be learned. We are so much more than a physical being learning. I mean we learn school-like kind of things so that we can function in society, but we're also learning as spiritual beings. For example, just today I was on I have a little, I have a virtual membership that I run and they want to talk about triggers and they want to talk. They wanted to discuss what was triggering them in terms of family dynamics and work kinds of things and basically other people, how to handle when you get triggered.

SHERIANNA: 6:03

And so we started to process those emotions and open up to again spirit as a form of way to connect to spirit, for guidance, and we ended up, I mean 30 minutes later, talking about acceptance. And that's one of the things that I learned with my emotional detox. There's my experience and going through it and writing and studying it was. There's a point where something happens to you and it's awful and it's horrible and you think about that and you revisit the past and things like that. But then there's a point where you have to accept it because you can't change it. You can't go back and erase whatever it was, but you can accept it and it doesn't mean you agree with it, it doesn't mean it was okay, it doesn't mean you approve of it, but there is something about a spiritual lesson, about learning to really accept it so that you can move on and you can grow and you can evolve.

SHERIANNA: 7:15

And emotions are a big part of that. But we didn't get there through dialoguing. We got there from emotional processing, and so it is like a gentle coaching of really guiding people through their emotions, one step at a time, getting them to the place where they know the idea of these things, but very often they feel so far out of reach. How can I accept? How can I forgive? What do you mean? Let go? These are high, high spiritual lessons and they very often start out with more human lessons, like how do I handle when my mother-in-law triggers me or someone makes a comment about my weight or whatever it is. It could be anything, how do I do that? But that's how they start out. So we don't want to minimize those conversations. They're opportunities to feel and then, once you start to feel, then you have those higher level conversations and that is what am I supposed to learn here?

FLORENCE: 8:27

And bringing this back to the topic of food and nourishment and ultra-processed junk food. So many of us are using those foods to not feel, to not feel, to repress them, suppress them, shut them down, distract ourselves, numb out and we're missing. We're missing this whole, this whole realm that you're talking about, that you, you, you invite people to discover and to get skillful in. So tell us a little bit about what is an emotion?

SHERIANNA: 9:00

Well, an emotion they have. The anatomy of emotion is there's there's a biochemical component which is called neuropeptides, and neuropeptides influence our rates of inflammation in the body, they influence our circulation, they influence the sensations in the body, influence the sensations in the body More specifically, the research points to the sensations of a waking, waking us up right, because you have to feel to wake up to have these higher sensations. They are physical, they have the physical anatomy, the neuropeptides. They also have a non-physical anatomy and that runs along the lines of they call meridian lines, which are invisible energy lines that you might hear about in acupuncture, when they are looking at certain points in the body and they're moving the energy, the life force, energy and then spirit. Is, I see them very similar now that I've been processing for well, emotional detox that came out in 2012. So I mean, I've been processing daily for since, however long ago, that was, I'm sorry, 216 and maybe 217. I can't remember, but the anatomy of spirit is very similar because the way I look at it is emotions. What I say is they can only be processed in the now. You can't think about the past and process an emotion. You can talk about what you feel, you can describe what you feel. I'm not sure how much you're going to process what you feel if you're thinking about the past or focusing on the future. And the same thing happens when we connect to spirit or a higher selves. We have to be present in the moment to do that. And when you talk about emotions, honestly, their energy in action that a lot of people talk about, it's another definition. I have their energy in motion in the body, their vibration in the body.

SHERIANNA: 11:05

There are people that talk about emotions as vibrational scales. David Hawkins was one of them and he looks at the vibration of love as like a 500. Calibration and fear is like a 150. And then what that simply means is the frequency moves at a slower rate. Anger is about a 200. Guilt and shame are at the vibrational frequencies about 60, 50. So that tells us they're moving slow and that's why we feel depressed, that's why we don't have a lot of energy happening. Same thing with spirit.

SHERIANNA: 11:38

Then we studied the minds of people who channel spirit. They're just starting to get exciting data coming out. Talk about it in. Just Ask Spirit, people who channel spirit. They're just starting to get this exciting data coming out. Talk about it and just ask spirit, when they connect with something higher, their higher self, something greater, the same networking in the brain. Where we have gratitude, where we have love, where we have compassion, they light up. So I see them as one now, quite frankly, florence, I don't really separate it anymore, but I know it takes. Sometimes our minds have to separate things to understand them, and then we put it all back together again. It's like a puzzle. I have to pull things apart, study them before I can see it as a whole, and I get that. I was there too for those of you that are more analytical in nature, but now I just experience it as one, and so that's a very quick definition of emotions.

FLORENCE: 12:32

Amazing. So there's two pieces. There's the literal neuropeptides, the biochemical sensation of the emotion in the body. So you can see that the emotion is a feeling, a physical feeling, and it's also non-sensory energy flow, Non-physical yeah. And that non-physical energy flow. You now conflate it as the movement of spirit through us. Is that how you would say it?

SHERIANNA: 13:08

Yeah, it's energy, it's movement of energy. I would say that spirit is consciousness, energy, soul, in my and from what I've come up with, is our light. Our soul is our light. How do we change the brain? Let's go back now is to look at the brain. How do we change the brain? Let's go back now to look at the brain. How do we change neurons? Because we know we can change the brain through light. Through light, we change neurons, patterns of neurons.

SHERIANNA: 13:36

So, whether it's a pattern of food addiction or any kind of thinking addictive to thinking, light, sound, vibration creates that movement, just like energy, conduit of energy. And that's where, again, emotions. When we sing, we release emotion, when we create that energy. When people pray, they use their voice, they pray. When people pray, they use their voice, they pray, they're moving energy. And this is where it crosses, got depressed and then they started to. They realized, oh my gosh, it's the chanting. You know the chanting was keeping them healthy and vibrant in their, their minds. Mantras, freeing of the mind. So all of these spiritual tools now are coming in, finding their way in there and into our emotional. How to move emotions and how to connect to something higher at the same time.

FLORENCE: 14:47

Incredible. So can I go back and make sure that I understood you correctly when you said I now see them as one? I used to see them as separate parts, but now I see them as one. What is it that you see as one?

SHERIANNA: 14:58

Emotions and spirit.

FLORENCE: 15:00

Okay, that's what I thought, okay.

SHERIANNA: 15:01

Yeah, yeah, yes, oh, okay, that's what I thought. Okay, yeah, yeah, yes, got it, yeah, okay, so you may. May I just say one more thing to that, because I know that people can get a little cross-eyed over that. Now I see them as one. Let me explain from my, from my emotional detox days.

FLORENCE: 15:19

Yes.

SHERIANNA: 15:20

Most of what we're calling a feeling is a reaction. That's what I have found Because, look, you could call it either way. I can say I feel guilty, right, which is a feeling, a heaviness in the body. You can see the physical anatomy, or you react by feeling guilty. It can be a reaction. Now, what is a reaction? A reaction is how I make the uncomfortable comfortable.

SHERIANNA: 15:48

Some people turn to guilt as a way for coping. Some people turn to anger as a coping mechanism. That's a reaction. So it's a slippery slope.

SHERIANNA: 16:00

I know that we're trained, okay, well, this is anger. We want to put everything in a box and this is frustration. And this and through emotional detox, as I learned, well, is this? And through working clients, I'm like is this really an emotion? Because here's how I know it's not. Here's how I know it's a reaction, because I don't feel better.

SHERIANNA: 16:21

If it's an emotion, energy in motion, I'm going to feel better. I'm going to feel lighter, I'm going to feel grounded. If I'm actually feeling sensations, energies moving in the body, you're going to feel better. If you feel like crap and you can't get out of it, that's probably a reaction. And there's different levels of that. I call low levels of reactivity medium levels, high levels, that's like you're so in it. You can't see straight Low levels of reactivity. I'm aware I'm reacting, but maybe I'm not yelling at you, florence, because maybe I have enough self-awareness not to do that. But I'm, because maybe I have enough self-awareness not to do that. But I'm slightly aware that I'm not completely myself. Right now I'm a little out of sorts. A lot of us are kind of functioning on edge and we haven't gone over that threshold. So I like to describe it in just as spirit is.

SHERIANNA: 17:19

You know, for most of my life I felt just enough. Just enough to love my kids and take care of what I needed to do and help people. I felt just enough, but not enough to actually heal or to go through some of what I needed to go through, to process some of the emotions that had been with me for a really long time. And I think a lot of people were just like just enough. I mean, if we don't feel at all, then we're just like robotic, right and so with. But it doesn't have to be just enough, right, if you could just kick up your game a little bit more, a little bit more breath, a little bit more consistency, a little bit more support, you can just kick that up a couple notches. You're going to get past this survival thing just enough so I can take care of my kids and family. Then you're going to start to see a whole nother world open up and that is I can go beyond surviving. Can you imagine I can go beyond that and start to work and have a whole new relationship with my emotions.

SHERIANNA: 18:36

So my motto now is there's only one emotion love. Everything else is a reaction. That sort of helped me through my emotional detox because I'm going to be honest with you, I had so many feelings I felt like I was going to be there for the rest of my life If I told you every feeling I felt and how often I felt it. So I just said to myself this is a reaction. I choose to clear this reaction so I can feel and breathe and I know I'm feeling. If I'm breathing, I know I'm feeling. If I pause, I know I'm feeling if I'm learning, if I'm growing, if I'm connecting, if I'm able to let things go. I'm not saying I don't get pissed off, sometimes get upset or hurt we all do, but I don't hang on to it. We all do, but I don't hang on to it. So because feeling it won't? If you're in feeling, it's impossible to hang on to grudges, resentments.

FLORENCE: 19:35

It just really is Wow, okay.

SHERIANNA: 19:38

So if I want to, I'm going to try and put it through my. I'm almost nervous to drink my spin drift. Is this allowed in the? Just in the?

FLORENCE: 19:46

I don't even know what it is. But I'm going to just say no there's no sugar, I there's no enjoy.

FLORENCE: 19:57

Um, I, okay, so I'm trying to translate it into sort of a framework, that just sort of my brain, to understand this. So the difference between a reaction and a feeling is that you're basically saying there really is only one true emotion and that emotion is the emotion of love, and that when we are in our true self, higher self, whatever there's so many different words for it that is the energy that's flowing, the energy of love.

SHERIANNA: 20:28

Yes, because there's no judgment in higher self.

FLORENCE: 20:33

Yes, it is totally, completely, not resisting or rejecting anything that comes, it is just flowing through it and and its natural state, the energy, the vibration of, of our, our emotional state, is love, the inner, the vibration, the energy of love. And if it's not love, it's potentially coming from the animal body, reacting, resisting, you know, bracing, being triggered. And that emotion, those sensations, that feelings, are ones that we, if we feel them in present time ah, just a moment, I'm feeling some activation in my chest here. Oh, yes, that's right, my mother-in-law just dropped a comment about my dishes again and it's activated my body. So there's charge in my body and if I can bring the presence, bring the present moment, bring myself to be really present to it, I can process it and I'll know I'm feeling it because it processes and it clears and I feel better.

SHERIANNA: 21:44

You're going to feel better. You're going to feel better, you're going to feel lighter yes, you're. You're going to be less. So how? One way to know we're reactive is we want everything quick. So I gotta, I gotta fix this quick, I gotta figure this out quick, I gotta we start rushing around, we start. So anything anytime, something's quick. You know we want to give someone the finger. I don't know what it is, but it's a reaction, right, quick.

SHERIANNA: 22:12

And I'll give the example of someone in my group today, the one, the one who asked about triggers right, and this was a mother-in-law trigger. We get a lot of mother-in-laws sorry mother-in-laws out there and examples. So so once we went through and processed and I talked about acceptance before we went on, the person said I really need an appointment with you, you know, to help me get through this. When we went on and I said, okay, we'll talk after the group, we go on with the group process, the emotions go through, get some of the spiritual teachings. Next thing, I know I'm going to email and I said you know what I feel like. I got enough today where I have enough to really apply this now and I don't think I need a private session anymore. So what that tells me is that person has some stamina. They feel now they have enough strength, enough energy to give it a whirl right, and we always need that. It's nice to know we have support, we have someone there just in case. But I mean, really, isn't that the point To get us strong enough? Where we feel like a baby, you go developmentally, you begin to walk on your own. You'd be able to apply these skills in life. So that's what happens when you change, when you start to process what you feel, you feel capable.

SHERIANNA: 23:36

You're not as quick to react, or you're not, and reaction could be grabbing food or stopping in the you know the fast food or whatever that is, or that. Those are all reactions, quick, right. They come from triggers and triggers our memories, right. So can this? Is this person really triggering me? Is my mother-in-law really triggering me? Well, maybe her behaviors trigger me, but there's likely some emotions in me that are unresolved and that's why this person, why isn't she triggering someone else in the way that she triggers me? We have that in families. One person's like, oh, I can't stand him, I can't even be in the same room. Another person's like I'm okay Because one person has unprocessed emotions in them, or beliefs or whatever it is that need to be processed so that they can then get the stamina, so they're not so quick and reactive. It doesn't mean you have to be lovey-dovey with everyone, but you don't have to run, you don't have to hide, you don't have to bury in in food or or shame or whatever it is, because you get, you're getting the stamina now.

FLORENCE: 24:53

Got it Okay, so I think I'm understanding this better now. So when there's an emotion, when there's an activation in our nervous system, so we're triggered, there's distress, there's discomfort, there's some sort of something going on biochemically in our body and we feel it. It is a reaction until we are able to be present enough with it that it can start to clear, and then it transforms into an emotion. That energy that was stuck, there's bracing, there's constriction, there's rejection of it. I don't like this. All of that energy is still in a reaction. You know you're still in a reaction mode and then, once you're present with it and you process it, it shifts into acceptance and love and it clears, it moves through and you know you've processed it because you feel lighter. You, you, you, you know that that is not no longer stuck in the tissues.

SHERIANNA: 25:54

Absolutely Knowing though, however, some of that process of moving through. Sometimes you go through. So, for example, if you have to move through an emotion of guilt through. So, for example, if you have to move through an emotion of guilt, you will hit a moment of fear, so that reactive state, so that feeling like somebody upsets me, I feel guilty, and then the fear might be I don't know. I want to tell them to go take a hike or whatever. You have to kind of learn how to move through that, because the only way out is through. So think about it this way You've got about a 60 calibration frequency of shame, that's 60. Frequency of movement as you go up to fear, that's 150. I have to go through the 150 to get to the love, which is 500 calibration. So there might be some discomfort folks as you're going through that, and that's okay, that's a good sign.

SHERIANNA: 26:55

The thing is is, with these practices, you learn to sit with that, discover, as you say, and be more present. And we're talking seconds here. I don't want people to think you're going to be in agony processing an emotion. The 90 seconds to get through a reaction, I mean that's what we see from neuro-anonymous Jill Boetje-Taylor talks about that. It takes 90 seconds to process an emotion. After that you've chosen to hang on to the. I call it reaction at that point. So these practices, the more you practice them, it can happen very quickly that is amazing and I cannot believe.

FLORENCE: 27:40

now I'm starting to get really excited because I'm like wow, I really get this. This is totally where I'm at as well. So I have always have the scale of consciousness handy. Let me just see if I can pull it up. That might be a really cool thing to share. Which one?

SHERIANNA: 27:56

Yeah, I mean there's different ones that people have shared out there.

FLORENCE: 28:01

Yes, there's so many.

SHERIANNA: 28:02

I have about four or five, it just helps to have a visual and or to have just a sense of of what you're doing when you're processing an emotion.

FLORENCE: 28:12

Yes, here's. Let me just think, sorry, let me go back and as you're, as you're looking for it.

SHERIANNA: 28:30

Um, that's the system that cleanse, that I created, which is begins with the c and ends with the e. So it's the steps that I take people through to process their emotions. And now I take them through to both process and connect to spirit, because I want them to realize, go to their inner guidance, their inner wisdom, which is your spirit, and get the answers from within. Here's the other advantage of I call it asking spirit. A lot of us have a hard time asking for anything, asking for support, asking for a hand, asking for forgiveness, asking for an apology, asking for assistance, asking for someone to just empty the damn dishwasher, right? I mean, especially in our society. Here we just don't. We do it alone. And if you ask for help, it's looked at weakness. You need help, right, what's the matter with you? You can't do that. Right, you need help, you need a break. Come on, right. I mean, it's just a mentality. So I say get comfortable asking spirit, because it feels safe, it feels loving. If you know they're never you're going to get judged, no one's going to. Spirit's not going to be like what's the matter with you? Why you ask, why? Come on, you're asking me another thing, right? So get comfortable, because I ask spirit every day just for practice. It's like a muscle and I go through process, my emotions ask spirit and I get the guidance.

SHERIANNA: 30:03

And what it's done is, and you know, the other day I was getting my oil change and someone I knew. You know the feeling when you know someone's going to cut you. You know when you're waiting in line in cars and you just know, and I'm like I know he sees me and I know he's going to cut me and I just I couldn't believe how quickly I spoke out. I thought who was that person Like? And I did it very firmly. I was like no, excuse me, I was next, thank you. And so I think it's honestly, from asking spirit, I'm, I'm, I'm. You're learning to speak up for yourself. You're learning to say I matter, this matters to me, this is important to me. So for those reasons alone, I think it can really help people in their journey of recovery, of learning to speak up, learning to have a voice, asking whatever questions you want, statements you want to say, just let it, let it be. You will never be judged for it or put down or however whatever's been embedded in our minds through time.

FLORENCE: 31:13

Right, right, right, like how we were responding to his children, like maybe it was impatience or that was a stupid question, or ignored or whatever. That just doesn't happen in this, just a spirit kind of dynamic. And the cool thing is you'll never be ignored either. But you have to journal or ask until you can realize I am never ignored. This universe truly is responsive, but you got to prove it to yourself.

FLORENCE: 31:39

So let me go back to this scale, because I think this is going to be. I share this all the time. I freaking love this scale and there's many different versions of it, but this is roughly the concept. So what we have here is down here, sort of in the sort of more most of your thoughts in this sort of lower or negative, and they're dense and they're uncomfortable and they're painful. So things like hate, anxiety, regret, despair, guilt, shame, apathy, and what sherry was sherryanna was talking about is that these are the ones that she's helping people to learn how to detox and as they move up the scale they might move from like fear is lower than anger on david hawkins scale.

FLORENCE: 32:21

So if you move from being really afraid of something and then all of a sudden you're like, quite, you've got all this anger energy moving through. You've moved up the scale. Like you think, oh, I'm still stuck or I'm regressing. You're not.

FLORENCE: 32:32

And according to this sort of idea that we move, we move through these states as we move closer to the sort of middle zone where people are pretty balanced between the number of negative thoughts they have and positive, and then these are sort of the higher, higher vibrational, higher dimensional emotions like peace, love, joy. And so what you were saying, which I think was so important for people to know, is that if you're in shame and guilt and depression and despair and you're down here and all of a sudden you start fear starts activating in your system and then anger, and then you start to have a bit of courage, or you might have days where you just kind of feel neutral. You are moving up the scale, you are detoxing these lower reactionary, painful emotions and you're moving up into the zones where you live more time in the States, actions to where they absorb.

SHERIANNA: 33:42

And we know emotions are contagious and they absorb other people's emotions as a way to manage them and to cope with them out of love Most often it's out of love, it's a belief or it's a subconscious thing. So if my mother was upset, I might absorb her pain or her sadness or her anger, her frustration, because I love my mother and I don't want my mother to feel that way. So you can see how children might do that and we might get into the habit. So I, what I've seen with in terms of helping people with those kinds of ways is is they're absorbers, it's they internalize it like food, like we do with food, and and so you have to, you have to.

SHERIANNA: 34:38

Again, that's going to be another practice of that's a reaction. Again, that's going to be another practice of that's a reaction. So I'm releasing, I'm clearing those reactions of absorbing. First, I've become aware that I'm absorbing. I have to know how that looks. I'm probably going to have to learn a bit about boundaries at some point and learn about what that looks like, what that feels like, and learn about how to what that looks like, what that feels like and and. So that is a one of the reactions I see quite frequently with people who struggle with food addiction.

FLORENCE: 35:19

I so agree with you. These really these feelers, these empaths, those of us that are maybe even on the codependent or people-sleezing spectrum and we lose connection to our own feelings. We're so full and it's so uncomfortable inside, Like who wants to go and process emotions and sit and be with them. But I love that 90 seconds it really doesn't necessarily take all that long to just be with them and to help them get unstuck and to clear and to detox. I really I've never. I actually I know your books, I love your work, I love you. I haven't landed, in the same way as this interview, around that whole idea of the detox, the, the really clearing, allowing those negative, fear-based, painful.

SHERIANNA: 35:58

I would say you're, you're not getting rid of emotions, you're getting to them Right. So when you think of the clearing it's, it's uncovering, it's the feeling you know you're, you're thawing out, like taking something out of the freezer and thawing it out and turning it. You know you can't destroy energy, but we can transform it. Albert Einstein told us that. So we can. So we can't destroy emotions, like this whole idea that I'm going to get rid of anger, but I can transform it and that's for the greater good of everybody. And we know that a lot of emotions, through epigenetics, are contagious. I'm sorry. Well, they're contagious, but they're also genetic. So you see, people have similar reactions in the way that they handle emotions. But we know that we can change that with awareness and we can start to carve out new ways of responding to the world and that will get passed on to future generations.

FLORENCE: 36:59

Right, the epigenetica legacy piece, and I'm loving the idea of the word, the whole detox of it, because of what I'm doing is I'm I'm processing it and it is shifting from being a stuck energy into an energy in motion. It frees up the energy. It's no longer sort of suppressing my energy levels, it's contributing to my energy levels.

SHERIANNA: 37:31

Yes, yeah, and then you get the wisdom and the information. The wisdom can come in because the emotions are like a gateway, you know, you open yourself up, you, you're raising your level of consciousness, like you showed in that scale, and consciousness, energy is spirit. So you're connecting to spirit and then you're you're connecting to your light, which is soul. And again I'll go back to well, how do we change the brain with light and touch? Touch is a big way to touch and also the nervous system. We know that that it highly, it highly responds. The parasympathetic, the vagus nerve, is highly, responds to touch. It doesn't respond so much to talking, florence, I mean it can calm people down a little bit, but to really change it, it responds to vibration and that's why, in the cleanse that I created, there's all of this. I mean there's the clear reactivity, which is about toning your vagus nerve, connecting to your higher self, your light, and then look inward, which is acknowledging your emotions. Breathing, that's a breathing in there and that, again, breath connects, breath is spirit and breath moves energy of emotions. That's how I see them, as one of the same. Sometimes, when I get, when I feel compressed, and I start breathing, it's like the guidance comes in. It's like when we block emotions, you block spirit, and when you block spirit, you block emotions. And either way you're going to get to the same place. It's just a matter of what path you want to choose.

SHERIANNA: 39:07

For me, I was always very spiritual until I had a lot of trauma as a kid. And then, and then, like a lot of people, I learned to shut down and put walls up and protective layers. Shut down and put walls up and protective layers, because you get hit with things, especially at a young age, and then I'm no longer connected to who I am. I don't know who I am. You feel like you're just walking through life, you're living everybody else's life but your own, and it wouldn't be until I was really in that emotional detox. Later on, years later, I'm processing my emotions and all of a sudden like, oh my gosh, I can remember I used to do this as a kid. I used to connect, I used to be guided. It was like I forgot that part of myself and and so it came back. So I say, okay, well, through emotions, you can, you can, you can get back to who you are again, um, to remembering who we are, that we're so much more than than our identity, than what's happened to us, what we're going through to our body, that we're, that you know the way our body looks and feels. We're bigger than that.

SHERIANNA: 40:24

So the cleanse is that E is mantra, vibration emit, the A is activate. You get into heart, you start noticing and observing your energy, you start noticing what it feels like to be living as in your higher self and you start asking spirit questions. In that A and then N is nourish, you start receiving the guidance. All you got to do is ask and then receive. And it comes different for everybody.

SHERIANNA: 40:51

Some people might see an image and they're like oh, I saw an image, I don't know it was stupid, but who cares? You saw an image right and you just let yourself receive, receive. You saw an image right and you just let yourself receive, receive. Some people see color, some people see just feel calm and peaceful. It's just. You learn to not have any attachment or judgment. You just let the energy come in and then S is surrender, which is our choice, our free will. I have to choose, so I allow, I allow peace, I allow calm, I allow presence, and then E is ease, which is the I am, which is one of the most powerful words you can use. It's written 973 times in the Bible the I am, I am, you know, I am strong, I am, I am capable, I am unique. Whatever it is I am, I am healing, landing in that I am.

SHERIANNA: 41:48

You talk about vibration with food, and I know you've talked about different foods. Have the energy fields around them. Well, so do words. I am is one of them. When we say affirmations and we really feel them, you don't just say them. That's the key is you have to feel it. And that's why those other prior steps are important, because by the time you're saying your I ams and your I allows in that cleanse, you're actually feeling it. It's the difference between when someone says, oh, I love you, you're so wonderful, and you're like I don't believe you, and then you can really feel it and you're like I believe you, wow, I really. What a difference. And that's what we have to do for ourselves.

FLORENCE: 42:35

Incredible, incredible, amazing. Yes, and tying this back to the food, you're right. There's so many ways that food can keep us stuck in a body that's very reactionary and that it can be one of the tools that we can use to help sort of bring in higher vibrational, healthier, more nourishing, hydrating foods and that can sort of help us move out of, if we're kind of stuck in the survival paradigm and that sort of darker, energy, emotionally energetic place. I was going to ask you something about emotions and it's gone. Is there anything else you would like to say before we?

SHERIANNA: 43:16

wrap up today. You're so, in the moment, you just it. I think that inner guidance piece is important. If we're reaching for something out of impulse, we're overriding that, we're not listening. And a big part of asking spirit is asking, processing your emotions, asking, but also listening, and without judgment. So that in itself is a practice learning how to receive information, receive guidance and not judge it. Oh, that was stupid. That was, you know, not putting a um. You know we're so used to being graded and you know, in our society we're so used to is this right, is this wrong, is this good, is this bad? Just like with emotions, is this emotion good? This is a bad emotion? They're all good, all your emotions are good.

SHERIANNA: 44:22

I always say, so long as you process them, and process means an experience. So think, as long as I have an experience with them, and so I digest them. It's like I'm not inhaling my food, I'm chewing my food, I'm smelling my food, I'm touching it, I'm getting to know it, I'm carefully putting it on my plate. That's me having an experience with my food. If I just shove something in my mouth, that's not an experience. I'm out. That's not an experience. Emotional processing is a lot about experiencing the energy of something. So I do have to slow down a bit to do that. I have to be more mindful. But again, we're talking seconds, we're talking just pauses, gentle pauses. That's why I, like you know, introducing and I even like a little prayer or gratitude or thank you for my food it's just enough of a pause to actually be have an experience with something and it seems like a really great note to end on that.

FLORENCE: 45:46

In a summit like this, where you have people who are vegan or whole food plant-based people who are keto and vegan and I'm sorry, I meant to say carnivore, and everyone in between it, your mind is so easily caught up in that what's right, what's good, it's judging, it's overwhelmed. This is where the just death spirit come back to how to make what? Everything? Anything you hear on the summit. Follow sharianna's advice of sitting quietly with your body or with a pen and paper and ask what body do you need? You, your body, your spirit, your emotions brought you this far to this summit to learn more about how ultra processed foods are hijacking our brains and diminishing the life force, energy, in our bodies. Now the next step is what from the summit do I want to take and act on? And just keep, just ask spirit, just ask spirit, just ask spirit and you'll get your answers.

SHERIANNA: 46:39

Yeah, and sometimes it's spirit that gets you to a summit like this, right, it's like it's called divine synchronicity. You know, when you land in the right place at the right time and you're hearing exactly what you need to hear, and you didn't even pay any money for it, I mean that's pretty cool, right? You're like thank you, spirit. Oh, thank you, I got that information, thank you for bringing that to my attention. And then you listen. I mean, how many times have we landed on something and we don't click the button, and we don't we see it and we're like, yeah, wow, that's exactly what I needed. That's that's you listening to your guidance Just keep going, keep going.

FLORENCE: 47:27

Yeah, I imagine people are thinking that right now, with this interview, that I just that's exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you for your time I really appreciate it and all your beautiful works. And go and get her latest book and or at least one of them, because there's so many to choose from and so much wisdom and so much skill building that can help us stop running away from our emotions and start to embrace them and free up that energy and allow us to connect to spirit better. Thanks again, everybody for tuning in today thank you.